Hi TK,
I buy your card and make a daughter board. 2 weeks ago I go to the
machine and install and connect the machine to your card and my final
product. this have problems only two drives working and the other 2 have
problems. now I working to replace this drive and working with the same
motors. I have AB 1748 drives with 36 amps DC motors and tachometer and
DC velocity control. My first sens is with a yaskawa drive and motor.
when I send signal to enable this stay stop, with out the enable signal
the motor run at little vekocity. When I try kflop+kanalog in the the
real machine the motors never stop but I can control(only 2 because only
two 2 1748 ab servos working) please tell me how mach3 and your board
working?? I need only make one program?? I send to you a picture of my
last machine. And a picture of your card with my daughterboard.
Regards,
Jose
El 2013-05-11 17:35, Tom Kerekes escribió:
> Hi Jose,
>
> The Kanalog signals are all documented here:
>
>
> http://www.dynomotion.com/Help/SchematicsKanalog/ConnectorsKanalog.htm
>
> The SWE comes out as a sinking relay driver on JP8 Pin9
>
> It also comes out as a 3.3V LVTTK signal on JP12 Pin29
>
> Regards
> TK
>
> -------------------------
> FROM: "jcf@..." <jcf@...>
> TO: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> SENT: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:24 PM
> SUBJECT: Re: [DynoMotion] Mach3 Explainme
>
> Tom,
>
> about SWE signal, where is located, this is like the charge pump??
>
> Jose
>
> El 2013-05-11 17:02, Tom Kerekes escribió:
> > Hi Jose,
> >
> > Regarding:
> >
> > #1 - Unfortunately the Kanalog Outputs power up an random states
> > until initialized.
> >
> > But the SWE is guaranteed to remain off until all the outputs are
> > initialized off. You can use SWE to keep everything off until the
> > outputs are initialized.
> >
> > #2 - To keep the axes from moving when the axes are disabled you
> will
> > need to disable the amplifiers. You will need to interface the
> > amplifier enables to KFLOP or Kanalog outputs.
> >
> > There is a C Program example called watchenable.c that can be used
> to
> > activate an output whenever an axis is disabled.
> >
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > -------------------------
> > FROM: "jcf@..." <jcf@...>
> > TO: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > SENT: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:15 PM
> > SUBJECT: Re: [DynoMotion] Mach3 Explainme [1 Attachment]
> >
> > Mr. Tom,
> >
> > Ok, I follow your instructions and setup a analog drive with motor
> > to
> > explain me the step I need to go for successful application.
> >
> > 1.- All input and oputputs is working. Only one thing. when apply
> > power
> > to the kanalog+kflop the bits 144 thru 151 goes ON and when the
> led
> > in
> > the kanalog+kflop go steady the bits 144 thru 151 goes off. This
> is
> > a
> > problem because we start 8 outputs until really control. please
> let
> > me
> > know how to start in OFF that bits.
> >
> > 2.- When the axis is disable the motor moves a little. I don't
> want
> > to
> > move. Please let me know what I can to stop the motor in disable
> > axis
> > mode. When I enable axis the motor remains motion less.
> >
> > 3.- I can command DAC0=XXX and working fine in both directions.
> >
> > Please help me with the first 2 issues.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jose Castaneda
> >
> > El 2013-05-08 15:57, Tom Kerekes escribió:
> > > Hi Jose,
> > >
> > > Like I said in the last email you really need to go step-by-step
> > and
> > > get the axes working in KMotion.exe before even attempting to
> run
> > > Mach3.
> > >
> > > There isn't much you can do without the amplifiers and motors.
> > >
> > > You could test that the encoders are wired correctly and count
> > > correctly. Connect the differential line driver encoders to the
> > > Kanalog differential encoder inputs.
> > >
> > > Limit Switches are connected to KFLOP+Kanalog and configured in
> > > KMotion.exe not Mach3. You can see if they are wired and working
> > > correctly using KMotion's Digital IO Screen.
> > >
> > > There is a starting configuration for KFLOP+Kanalog called
> > > KanalogInitialPID.mot. Load it into an axis channel from the
> > KMotion
> > > Configuration Screen. The basic first steps are to verify the
> > > hardware:
> > >
> > > #1 - check the encoder counts correctly
> > > #2 - check that the DACs can command the Amplifier to control
> > motor
> > > speed. Test Console commands like DAC0=200 (with the axis
> > disabled)
> > > #3 - Enable the Servo using the Step Response Screen. Zero,
> Enable
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > > FROM: "jcf@..." <jcf@...>
> > > TO: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > SENT: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:11 PM
> > > SUBJECT: [DynoMotion] Mach3 Explainme
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > I don't understand how kanalog + kflop working with the mach3.
> Do
> > > you
> > > can explain me. Please. I need running the machine this weekend.
> I
> > > have
> > > Allen Bradlley analog drives, Line driver encoders, 4 spindle, I
> > > drive
> > > for the 4 spindles, limit switches, etc. I don't can try the
> > drives
> > > until I go to the factory. When I go to factory, I need ready
> > > working
> > > with mach3 the inputs, outputs, encoders and after I can working
> > > with
> > > the analog drives. Please help me.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jose Castaneda
> > >
> > > El 2013-05-03 17:57, Tom Kerekes escribió:
> > > > Hi Jose,
> > > >
> > > > The first step is to get a motor to move using KMotion.exe.
> Have
> > > you
> > > > done this? What type of amplifiers do you have?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------
> > > > FROM: "jcf@..." <jcf@...>
> > > > TO: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > SENT: Friday, May 3, 2013 1:23 PM
> > > > SUBJECT: Re: [DynoMotion] Problems [2 Attachments]
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > This is my first time with your Kflop, but I think we can
> > install
> > > in
> > > > our machines. but I need your help to go rapid success with
> your
> > > > board
> > > > and think to install in our machines.
> > > > Do you can tell me how to configure the I/o in mach3 to mach
> > with
> > > > kflop
> > > > the number of port and pin in the configuration page of mach3
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > jose castaneda
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Links:
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